Curse

code1101 · Jan 30, 2007, 09:33 AM // 09:33

me and my friends used to play guild wars alot. Eventually I became the only one who plays GW and most of them went to WOW. When I saw my friend play it (trying to encourage me to buy it) and when he showed me the auction system that they had I felt sorry for myself and everyone who is playing GW.

Trading is a big part of any MMORPG, and if that part of the game sux then the game starts to suck too.

Fact: ppl are leaving GW because of the trading system. You think this is not true, watch me switch to any other MMORPG like my friends did while you guys continue to beg for such an option.

I mean omg, since 2005 and you are still begging. I have all three campaigns but nightfall will be the last one. No more GW until an auction system exists.

/Signed

P.S: notice that this is my first post ... and it might be my last ... gg all

Emik · Jan 30, 2007, 09:40 AM // 09:40

m00t m00t m00t

Trophy Hunter · Feb 04, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16

/signed

Possitive :
1)I like the instant trade because it doesnt take hours or days to fulfill a trade plus scammers or people fake bidding in auction sites will be out of the game. Got the money the seller reguires ->get the item fast
2)You dont have to be online 2 days to find something you want. Instant notify when someone places what you looking for.
3)This results in more free storage slots!(while the price we set is astronomical *example sskais sword 300ectos* so that noone will buy it )

But:
1)Imagine 3 million accounts that each puts 1 roll of parchement for auction at the same price. Who would be the first to sell it? [Code benefits]
2)Auction site means placing bids. The only safe way is the bidder to place his bid (gold + ectos) and cant remove it untill the auction ends. Who would like to have his money reserved(100k+200e for example 5 days) and last minute someone else buys it for +1e more?
3)People buying gold from external sites(meaning not 100k but 100ectos) will take advantage of it and over bid anyone else. Act of Gold Recycling in order to create the false idea that value is bigger than demand.
4)Someone wants to sell 1 item for 2k and someone that has stock of items sells them for 1950gold. The result is that the +50gold guy is never gonna sell it. While the possible re-seller gets richer.
5)Advertising prices is bad. This will force people to follow a minimum line cost because re-sellers will buy everything cheaper so that their increased value becomes the base line. Stock market in a game usually ruins the poor and benefits the rich.

That's what i think.

ikpt · Feb 04, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21

/signed

Even though Arena Net clearly doesn't care about this subject one bit.

Navaros · Feb 04, 2007, 10:21 PM // 22:21

I didn't understand Alex Weekes' fairly recent post in which a poster asked if the "party search" screen was supposed to be the "trade improvements" or not. He said something to the effect of that the trade aspect of the party search screen was an afterthought, and they are still open to listen to players suggestions to improve trade.

What puzzles me about post is that is that Anet surely should know that there is only one suggestion that is given to improve trades, and it's been being suggested since the dawn of Guild Wars. That suggestion is an Auction House.

It makes me wonder if Anet has forgotten the importance of an Auction House. I think this thread should be Stickied, as no Auction House is and always has been the single biggest thing that is fundamentally wrong with Guild Wars and with it being stickied then Anet would not forget the importance of it.

The Silver Star · Feb 05, 2007, 08:56 AM // 08:56

/signed

Auction house is and always has been needed but it has been brought up here a lot and i doubt it will be introduced.

Quest_techie · Feb 05, 2007, 12:17 PM // 12:17

I'd like to see a consignment trader, not a dstraight auction thing, because there are too many games with auctions, consignment the price is static, you can find what you want, and it's instant <no waiting for the auction to close wondering if you got an item, and then finding out that you got screwed on it because the tides of the market changed in the time you were waiting for it>

tnam7 · Feb 05, 2007, 05:38 PM // 17:38

/signed

Although the fact is it has become standard practice to treat D1 of the three major cities as our live auction areas. Perhaps we should force all traders to remain in D1 and not spam the remaining districts since 99% of chat window is filled with trade offers anyway.

funguito · Feb 05, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnam7

/signed

Although the fact is it has become standard practice to treat D1 of the three major cities as our live auction areas. Perhaps we should force all traders to remain in D1 and not spam the remaining districts since 99% of chat window is filled with trade offers anyway.

D1's don't have to be very crowded to be absolutely impossible to read what ppl are SPAMMING in the talk channels. Forcing traders to stay in one place with the current system is only going to make things worse.

Please give us a trading system worth of the (real) money we're paying for the game.

hookupskid85 · Feb 07, 2007, 08:30 AM // 08:30

What are you waiting for A-Net please make something like this happen

Emik · Feb 07, 2007, 08:34 AM // 08:34

You know what GW needs?
Less idiots that have to type every message three times in a row...
If everyone would stop acting like complete tards it would be much better off
No Auction House can rule that out.

Wulfgast · Feb 07, 2007, 04:13 PM // 16:13

/signed, signed, and more signed for the Auction House. Hawking goods in the trade channel has to be the most unfun thing to do in a video game since Mad Dog McCree.

Plus, we may actually be able to talk to each other in towns and outposts rather than ignoring long streams of trade spam! ZOMG!

Damastes · Feb 08, 2007, 11:47 AM // 11:47

Good idea - this system works very well in FFXI:Online

Cyclades of Knossos · Feb 08, 2007, 12:15 PM // 12:15

/signed

Though frankly I think Silk Road has a much better system.

I'd prefer to see Green Dollar signs above players heads and go see what they have for sale.

Puliver · Feb 08, 2007, 12:30 PM // 12:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quest_techie

I'd like to see a consignment trader, not a dstraight auction thing, because there are too many games with auctions, consignment the price is static, you can find what you want, and it's instant <no waiting for the auction to close wondering if you got an item, and then finding out that you got screwed on it because the tides of the market changed in the time you were waiting for it>...

And why do you think that so many games have auction system? Because it's good, it's effective and it makes the game less boring. Current shouting system is inefficient. This game absolutely needs improvement in this area. I have seen WOW auction system and must say that it's very good. When you give an item into auction, you specify two prices, one for minimal bidding and one for maximal, so when some1 bids max+, he instantly receives that item. You can swiftly search through auction for the item of your choice and you are not forced to run from town to town and trying to find a player that is selling something that you want. People want to play, not wait and stare into computer if there's some1 selling something interesting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quest_techie

...finding out that you got screwed on it because the tides of the market changed in the time you were waiting for it>

That is auction and there isn't only 1 person in whole world who is selling that item

, there will be more than 1 occurence of that item in the list believe me. If you want that item badly, so pay the max+ price and you get it instantly

/signed

Hex Nexus · Feb 08, 2007, 12:31 PM // 12:31

/signed

Nice Idea

Puliver · Feb 08, 2007, 01:36 PM // 13:36

Ok guys, I found something on the web and if it's true, we are going to be very dissapointed

Quote:

The Auction house or use of a auction house was one of the things, that came up in the copyright legal case, Arenanet was ordered by the court not to have auction houses or use of a auction. It was one of the conditions Blizzard demanded. In an effort to stop wow becoming too much like guild wars and stop Guild wars becoming too much like WOW, they failed however. If you go down to your local police station and ask to look up the case file. (Use the Public information act. to see the files) and you can go read up on the case.

Basicly Blizzard had baught copright to the rights to have auction houses in their game.

So Arenanet, either had to pay Blizzard for the right to use Auction houses in Guild wars, or they had to go without, which is what you see today.

Edit: Also in a bit of extra gossip, before I stopped playing wow, the Staff that worked on Wow, basicly got fired by "SOE", One of the reasons I stopped playing, SOE that is (sony online entertainment) In a Silent take over, purchased a small chunk of World of warcraft, they had rights to certain things including staff personal, They fired the original staff and place their own people in, - Why WOW, now sux's more so than it used to. SOE first screws the game over, then scews you over.

When this is true, we need to find out something that is not an auction system but it realy improves trading, like upgrading search window with possibility to show your stuff that you are offering and at which prices.

Lonesamurai · Feb 08, 2007, 01:52 PM // 13:52

Quote:

Edit: Also in a bit of extra gossip, before I stopped playing wow, the Staff that worked on Wow, basicly got fired by "SOE", One of the reasons I stopped playing, SOE that is (sony online entertainment) In a Silent take over, purchased a small chunk of World of warcraft, they had rights to certain things including staff personal, They fired the original staff and place their own people in, - Why WOW, now sux's more so than it used to. SOE first screws the game over, then scews you over.

best news of 2007 if its true

The Herbalizer · Feb 08, 2007, 02:01 PM // 14:01

wont ever happen

wow has auction house yet has no cap on gold

guild wars has cap on gold so trading would be a nightmare unless they allow gold + ecto trades

i doubt anet would want to spend $$$ making auction house when spamming in a town is cheaper for them

anet have yet to implement it and i doubt they will as gw is already three chapters in

wow's auction house is the 1337sauce as you can just put all your items on a mule and load them into auction house then go off and play another char and when you come back you have a load of gold with no spamming required.

english storm · Feb 08, 2007, 06:09 PM // 18:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puliver

Ok guys, I found something on the web and if it's true, we are going to be very dissapointed

When this is true, we need to find out something that is not an auction system but it realy improves trading, like upgrading search window with possibility to show your stuff that you are offering and at which prices.

It's impossible to copyright an idea, ie the idea of having an auction house in a game. They can copyright the code but not the idea of having an auction house in a game. There fore if Anet really wanted to include one they could. They would just have to make sure it works differently to the WoW one.